Monday, October 16, 2006

North Wales Policing Priorities

more overkill policing

On Saturday, Inspector Paul Firth said he had 4 police officers to cover 250 square miles and that he would rather not use them to police the Hafod protest. Today, about 20 protesters peacefully blockaded the quarry for about 15 minutes. At least 8 police officers (oops! I've been corrected - there were 14) were sent to the scene in at least 4 police vehicles, including the one sponsored by Kronospan. When the police arrived, the protesters moved back to the other side of the road without even being asked.

Surely it is good sense to send a couple of officers out in the first instance to assess the situation before diverting large numbers of officers from other duties to police something which does not need that level of policing... isn't it? Or is the priority to keep Mersey Waste moving at all costs? Who are the police really working for - the people or for big business?

In the end, with nothing else to do, the police assumed a traffic management role, stopping vehicles (which should have the right of way) along Bangor Road to allow the waste wagons to leave the site. At one point this caused a large tailback up Bangor Road.

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At Monday, October 16, 2006 1:16:00 PM, Anonymous ken said...

At approxi 8.15 this morning there were 14 police officers at the site.Roughly 1 officer for every two protesters :)


At Monday, October 16, 2006 5:25:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A link for some of the action.

Apologies in advance for the video quality, although you get the idea :-)

At Monday, October 16, 2006 10:12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is an idea. Don't block the entrance. Number of police needed.
0. Including none sponsored by Kronospan.

At Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:23:00 AM, Anonymous another anon said...

Here's an idea. Everyone go home and wait for the flies, the seagulls, the rats, wait to get ill, wait for the number of miscarriages to increase, wait for babies to be born deformed.

Any more bright ideas?

At Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:02:00 PM, Blogger Blodwen Fleer said...

I'm surprised the police helicopter hasn't had a jaunty overtime payment over hafod. Yet again who'd volunteer to fly/disturb all that rubbish with the helicoptor blades?
If the police think 14 officers at hafod is the best use of public money I suppose that's their choice. Just hope they're billing MWH as they would the football club for extra policing?

At Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:58:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Here's an idea. Everyone go home and wait for the flies, the seagulls, the rats, wait to get ill, wait for the number of miscarriages to increase, wait for babies to be born deformed.'
Take a ride down the road to Pen-Y-Bont. There are no gulls (no sea even), I have never noticed any more flies than anywhere else and the waste is covered at night so the rats have no food plus are controlled.
As for the birth defects, the evidence is hardly substancial. There is a much tighter control on waste these days. I have talked to several local people who said they don't even notice that the tipping is underway. They are home in the day too.

At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:33:00 AM, Anonymous Jim Hughes said...

Hi annonymous.

You said:

"I have never noticed any more flies than anywhere else"

Could you be a little more specific in this profound scientific observation,for example did your fly count reveal a higher or lower number of flies in the Pen-y-Bont area compared to let's say, the Outer Hebrides or the the Norfolk Broads.
Is it possible to ascertain how you mamaged to get the flies to stand still while you counted them,or did you just ask them to email you when they turned up at the site.
Have you published your paper on the matter yet.
I must confess I am only a novice at this but I have read "Fly Counting for Dummies" and I am slowly getting through that majestic and definitive work on the subject "The history and development of fly counting methods" by Professor Von Fruitfly from the University of Geneva.
I hope to some day visit the the Department of Fly Counting at Aberystwyths Fly Analysis faculty,but I tink this is a little ambitious at the moment.

Jim Hughes

At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 5:13:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There lies your problem. You need some type of hobby Jim. Fly counting is almost as bad a study as early morning pavement hogging.
Try a course on spelling if you are going to try using big words.

'mamaged' 'tink'
That scotch to keep out the cold is a little too early I think.

At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:17:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is so obvious that he who pays the piper calls the tune, e.g. big business rules all.
If in doubt look at the paymasters of the Labour Party.
Sir Ronald Cohen, Lord Michael Goldsmith Q.C, Lord Jenner, Lord Michael Levy and Lord Simon to name just a few.
That is demoracy, that is Britain run by the jackboot is it any wonder we are fighting an uphill struggle at Hafod.
Take heart though,others fought their corner in the past and won!

At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:17:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

But surely all the flies from the landfill are the ones that flit around in those bright and shiny green vests. Easy to count and identify I would have thought,.... unless we are about to be inundated with an influx of casual fireflies from Eastern Europe now they're members of the EU.

At Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:01:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people are clearly paranoid, insecure, simple minded and very sad. You are not going to win this so just give up.

At Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:50:00 PM, Blogger Blodwen Fleer said...

To Anon,
Interesting psychological separation of 'you people', are you not a person? I suspect not.
'Paraniod'.Theres nothing imaginary about flies, filth, smells, deformities related to landfill, just facts.
'Insecure'. Too right, with councillors who don't care about us.
'Simple minded'. You mean unable to comprehend right from wrong? I'll give that one to our leadership, many of whom trust every 'consultant' they've paid and cannot think for themselves.
'sad'. Yes, I am. Very sad at how the people of Johnstown have been treated, you can add to that 'angry', 'sickened','disappointed', 'let down','betrayed.'

At Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:56:00 PM, Blogger Blodwen Fleer said...

Ooops, spelling, I meant 'paranoid'!

At Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:19:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The people who run this site are bigots. They delete posts that disagree with their point of view.


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