Monday, November 06, 2006

Carwyn exploring "complex issues"

Confirmation from the horse's mouth that Carwyn Jones has visited the site. It's unclear whether he went on the site.

From: Carwyn Jones
Sent: 03 November 2006 13:50
To: Ryder, Janet (AM)

Dear Janet

I announced in committee last week that the decision would now be announced in early November.There are a number of complex issues to explore and I want to make sure that we have gone through them all thoroughly.

I visited the site on the 12th of October.I also examined the perimeter of the site from all angles. I should also say that I did not meet with anybody while I was there.

I trust this clarifies the situation.



From: Janet Ryder AM
To: Carwyn Jones AM
Sent: 03 November 2006 10:41

Dear Carwyn,

You have made it very clear that you will be announcing your decision regarding the Hafod Landfill site before the end of the month. That was in October. We are now in November and to date a number of people still do not know that decision. Could you tell me please what your final decision is on the future of the Hafod site and how this was announced?

You have also announced that you would be visiting the site before that decision was made could you tell me when that visit took place and what was the nature of the visit.

I look forward to your response.
Janet Ryder


At Monday, November 06, 2006 12:03:00 PM, Anonymous watcherandthetower said...

A 16 year old student studying O level GCSE Law could have worked out every legal angle concerning the history of this landfill.
This bloke has had months,with access to every fact and figure and all levels of legal expertise at his disposal.
To cap it all this bloke is a barrister.
As minister of the Environment,planning and countryside there really is only one conclusion he can arrive at and that is to close Hafod.If he arrives at any other conclusion then he guilty of profoundly mocking not only his office,but the people of Wales.


At Monday, November 06, 2006 12:13:00 PM, Blogger dafad ddu said...

But are the complex issues matters of law or, more likely, political expedience... complex issues like how many votes does Sinclair need to save her seat?

At Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:55:00 AM, Blogger youngProtestor said...

When is Carwyn going to end this madness? The condition of the lorries arriving at the landfill are getting worst by the day. The smell is getting worse by the day. The seagulls are gathering in greater numbers by the day. And the lorries continue to drop debris all over the busy road outside the site. This results in other vehicles to having brake and swerve onto the wrong side of the road all day every day. All this would be fine if it was happening miles form where people live but it is happing within feet of people’s homes! The bottom line is the site is to close to the village END OF!!

At Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:22:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rob Allen has confirmed that Carwyn Jones has NOT been onto the site.

At Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:00:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For years the campaigners have challanged the authorites - Environment Agency, Planning (WCBC) and Countryside Council for Wales. None of them have got their heads around the law and have "played games" with the campaigners endeavouring to make the issues appear far too complex for the general public. Both the Environment Agency and the Countryside Council for Wales are quangos with no democratic accountability and as for Wrexham CBC they also appear to find the matter too complex so follow the Assembly's line. For years both EAW and CCW have paid lip service to protecting the environment and conserving the countryside. When it comes to it they have "no teeth" and are too lazy to take a moral stand. No surprise then that to find that the Minister of Environment, Planning and Countryside is also complicit and apparently seems to resort to porkies. Has anyone asked the question why was Planning law made? I know it was not to favour big business. Yes, it was to protect communities... So much for "Communities First". When it comes down to it these people are so arrogant they think they know better than their constituents (who are better qualified to speak of the impacts of landfill - they've already been there, had the t-shirt etc). When politicians accept their positions they should get over themselves (some think it gives them extra brains)and really think responsibly how their decisions impact on so many people's lives. Seems to me at the moment most of them get caught up in their own importance and justify their acts by thinking they know best. Heavens preserve us...


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