Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Did Carwyn really visit the Hafod?

Carwyn Jones is claiming that he visited Hafod Quarry privately on Thursday, 12 October 2006. This is the day after he received a delegation from Johnstown at the Assembly.

It seems he was on Assembly business in North Wales and visited the quarry. He has told Janet Ryder AM in an e-mail that his visit was not official:

“I entered the site and observed it at various points at the perimeter. I did not have an escort, save for my driver and Assistant Private Secretary nor indeed did I meet anyone on site. I had no contact with anybody while there. Nobody was aware of my visit.” (Carwyn Jones, 7 November 2006)

This raises a number of questions.

Firstly, the site owners Mersey Waste should have been informed on grounds of courtesy and health and safety. One wonders what Carwyn would have seen without an escort who knew the site. Was he able to see the Special Area of Conservation, for example?

When Geoffrey Hill, the Assembly planning inspector, went on the site in 2004 in a similarly sensitive situation regarding the planning appeal, he went through the proper channels and spent 2-3 hours on site.

Carwyn Jones, by his own admission, has trespassed on private property and disregarded warnings regarding health and safety. All visitors are required to report to security, where they are issued with safety helmets, high-visibility jackets and boots. The Minister appears to have ignored all these requirements and his actions seem bizarre at the very least.

If we are to believe his account explaining how he evaded security, it raises serious questions about Mersey Waste’s ability to prevent fly tipping or other illegal activities on the site. If they can’t stop three men wandering into the site unnoticed and unchallenged, who’s to stop a wagon containing toxic waste?

To add to the confusion, Mersey Waste's managing director Rob Allen has said that Carwyn has not been on the site.

So did Carwyn bother to go on site and examine the issues carefully? Or is this another case of Labour politicians attempting to hoodwink the public?

If he’s lied about his visit to Hafod, he should resign.


At Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:46:00 PM, Blogger Blodwen Fleer said...

Perhaps he borrowed Martyn's 'cloak of invisibility'?

At Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:55:00 PM, Anonymous Carl Davies said...

Are the secretary and driver going to swear that they was there?

It wouldn't just be him that lied, it would be serious to make your employees lie as well. I don't trust any of them, but if he can get away with lying about something as important as this, why should people have any faith in anything he ever says or says he's done, again?

At Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:17:00 PM, Anonymous Ali Roberts said...

MW or Carwyn Jones are lying. I don't trust either of them to tell the truth.
I don't get why MW would deny he has visited? If they lied and said he did then Carwyn would be safe.
maybe they have to record visits?
Why don't they prosecute him for trespass? His report says they have strict monitoring, (so the license was allowed)his visit prooves they don't.
Doesn't that make the report wrong?

At Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:01:00 PM, Anonymous carl davies said...

I'm not surprised they couldn't see him, they just thought he was one of the rats.
A very fat one.

At Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:18:00 PM, Blogger youngProtestor said...

If Carwyn Jones has lied to an assemble member as well as the public his political career is over. More importantly to us, if he has lied his decision on the site is flawed. Let’s hope Janet Ryder puts pressure on Carwyn Jones until he tells the truth.

At Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:24:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Carwyn Jones has been economic with the truth his political career is not over, he will receive promotion for serving his capitalist masters in the London government and the C.B.I.
That is how the system works and Messr's Jones, Sinclair, Lucas and the dirty dozen councillors of W.C.B.C know this and fully support this conspiracy.
They choose to ignore the people who elected them and consider protesters to be cranks and antagonists. The message must be conveyed to all the electorate in the area that they are represented by people who are not worthy of holding public office and therefore dealt with accordingly by booting them out at the next election.


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