The weather gets the better of Hafod
Quarry gates open at 6.40am, in breach of PPC licenceLitter problem
In the windy weather over the last few days, litter from inside Hafod tip has been blown onto the perimeter fence. The litter we can see is what catches on the barbed wire. It is reasonable to assume that some of it has gone over the fence - local farmers have been complaining of litter blowing from the site into their fields. Who'd have thought such a thing could happen, when we were all assured that the litter would be properly covered up each day?
Hafod operators ignore rules on opening hours
On Tuesday 9th January, the gates of the landfill site at Hafod blew open at approximately 6:40am. Today, Thursday 11th, the gates were once again open when members of the ever-vigilant Hafod Action Group arrived at 6:40am. This isn't just an idle moan - these incidents are breaches of the PPC permit, which clearly states the site must be locked outside operating hours. There seems little point in issuing a PPC permit if its conditions can be blatantly flouted by the operator.
However, what the Environment Agency has neglected to do, the weather succeeded in achieving this morning:
Windy weather closes the tip
When the vehicles arrived this morning, it was so windy that no tipping could take place and all the wagons were turned away.
posted by Bren @ 2:33 PM
53 comments
53 Comments:
You would need something to warm your heart at 6.40 am standing on the Bangor Road. You better get the vicar back if that is your only hope.
Religion is just a way to minipulate the weak minded into handing over cash and fighting wars which are really about land, wealth and power.
If there is a god he must be a sick mother.
You would be better sticking with Santa for help..
You would be better sticking with Santa for help..
As usual the parrot comments from anonymous.
Remember what Lenin said about the infantile nature of left wing communism being one of the greatest threats to his country.
Well he was right and you are most certainly wrong with your constant inane comments plus using the identity of people to cause mischief and discord.
Persona non grata!
Every landfill was closed today youngster. Even Recyclo has to close when it is so windy so all we can do is sit back, supping the champers till it calms down. Then we have busy day or two catching up but it will all end up where it would have done without the weather.
Big guy 0, waste industry ca-ching.
J.D.
Ps. Who has procluded me from answering? I do not work for MWH if that is what you are getting at?
One Matty Kirk, there's only one Matty Kirk, one Matty Kirk, theres only one Matty Kirk.
C'mon join in, you all know the tune!
Why don't you use your name youngster?
You can't say 3.0.. We were all having a olympic breakfast at the Little Chef this morning after sleeping in, that is all. Bloody busy this afternoon though.
Who is Matty Kirk?
J.D.
Wow! An Olympic Breakfast in the Little Chef - what a treat for you all. C'mon, hands up who had a free coffee refill, who spoilt themselves?
Olympic Breakfast
© www.littlechef.co.uk
The biggest and still the best! Two rashers of crisp back bacon, British outdoor reared pork sausage, two griddled eggs, whole cup mushrooms, crispy sauté potatoes, fresh griddled tomato, Heinz baked beans and toasted or fried extra thick bloomer bread.
I think the EXTRA THICK bloomer bread was particularly appropriate!
Anyway, c’mon, off to bed – it might be calm in the morning and Mr. Allan will want Little Slaves, not Little Chef, chop chop, off to bed!
You are not listening as usual.
I do not work for MWH. The only link to Liverpool that I have is my other half has relatives there. They have nothing to do with MWH or Merseyside Councils.
I don't get up early in the morning as I don't need to. I thought 6.40 only came once a day.
I have no idea if MWH have a time share villa but I hope that I may use Garry's own private villa when it finished being built.
I was thinking of putting a mobile bacon butty, tea and coffee van to provide you all with something to keep warm in the mornings but it would not make enough to pay the staff with so few of you at the gate these days.
J.D.
Ps. My deepest sympathy to the family of the young girl who died last week. My heart goes out to her friends who saw the accident and her family who lost her at such a young age.
You are a bright spark aren’t you Mr. Doe (Doe by name, doe by nature!)
The fact you don’t get up early and are under the impression that there is only one 6.40 in the day raises two (2) curious points – how were you ever going to sell bacon rolls, tea and coffee (we would not be there at 6.40PM – the thing would be shut!) and how do you know how many people are at the gate when you are safely tucked up in your bed? Psychic Doe …. Scary!
See you in the morning through your cab window as you drive in … oh and by the way don’t worry about the bacon, we’re having sausage baps tomorrow! There are only fourteen sausages so get there early! (Go on Doe, I’ve set it up for you ….)
zzzzzzzzzzzz, shhhhhhhhhh, Doe's sleeping.
Sausage baps ... Eaten
Coffee ......... Drunk
Landfill........ Closed
8am, Home....... Result!
Big Guy 4 MWH 0
(Enjoy your Olympic Breakfast ... or can your meagre wages not stretch to another one, try Chef's Breakfast Roll - they're good value at £3.99. Then again who knows who might be paying the bill - MWH, WCBC, WAG or more likely your on your way to Gowy, Pen Y Bont or some other less closely monitored landfill site!)
Not as bright as you obviously. Did I not write that there are so few of you that it would not pay the staffs wages.
While you lot were eating breakfast in the cold I was tucked up in bed, nice and warm. Try looking at the weather forcast and save yourselves the bother next time.
J.D.
Now who are the thick ones
Well lets see shall we, you work long hours driving waste around for less per week than we earn in a day. Ok you win congratulations you uneducated fools are still the thick ones!!
It is obvious that the comments on this site are becoming more purile by the day and the contributers on either side of the fence do little or nothing to fight the real issue.
How many of you fill your bin with plastic and cardboard rubbish generated by foreign owned supermarkets just because you are all to bone idle to do anything constructive to resolve the matter, you are no better than the wretched W.C.B.C that you criticise so much with just cause.
Where is the useless M.P, A.M and Councillor of Justice Coulbourne who have done precisely nothing to resolve this 21st century abomination.
You are paying them thousands of pounds for doing nothing and they are laughing at you all including you people working on the site.
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Can someone explain to me why people are gathering by the gate for an hour each morning? I support the Hafod protest but fail to see what it achieves if you're not actually doing anything while there.
I'd far rather support a blockade rather than a token protest.
Hi James
I would like to know the answer to that as well.
J.D.
JD, you misunderstand. I'm against the dumping at Hafod and think it's disgraceful that Mersey waste or any other is being dumped here. So please don't think you have an ally in me.
My question is what purpose the daily picket serves. I'msure the effort of turning up in all weathers would be better used to put pressure on Merseyside councillors, for example.
That is the same question. What good does it do standing at the gate in all weathers. Even if it was asked for different reasons.
J.D.
The answer to your question is,to monitor the operation of M.W.H.In common with any business (so called) enterprise in U K plc they commit legally permitted crime if they are not watched by Joe Public.
How do you think Eddie's chip shop has just been granted a licence to sell booze by W C B C when they and the police know he is one of the biggest crooks in Wrexham and deals in drugs.
Some hick town with a bent council and police force, now you know the answer to your question J D and Co.
But surely IF any illegal tipping was to happen (which it does not) we would just wait till you all trot off at 9 oclock?
So the response doesn't really answer the question. Just slags off some bloke called Eddie who owns a chippy. You have not put your name I see.
J.D.
Hi,
The idea of turning up in all weathers is to keep the protest alive to the public.
Hundreds of cars pass by the group every morning and the people in those cars tell other people and consequently the word gets around that the protest is still up and running.
Funding is a problem.If the group had the funding then they could get leaflets printed and bombard Johnstown and Ruabonand other localities
with the objective of getting a mass protest up and running.
If you could stop the wagons completely for a couple of hours a few times of the week then the police resources would be stretched and MW would lose money.
Local political support is a no go here.Martyn Jones or Sinclair would not support it because they will not get involved in anything they see as "illegal" in case it halts their journey on the gravy train,the fact that their leader is using taxpayers money to fund illegal wars seems to escape them.
So forget about New Labour.
This protest HAS to come from the people,consequently it needs numbers not politicians.
I would go for a spring summer campaign of mass protest stopping the lorries and closing the site for as long as possible.
All political paths are now closed,the only way that those paths can be opened are through mass civil protest,this will mean arrests and civil disobedience but it will make one of the most lethargic and complacent councils in the country sit up and listen.
Watcher
You had better get home security if that is the plan. If you keep the police busy and you are in the cells your houses will be easy pickings.
J D, if your name is really John Doherty then why don't you say so?
As for me signing as anonymous, well after revealing the information about the bent council granting a booze licence to a drug dealer would you chance getting your throat slit by the Wrexham hoods?
As usual you do not pay attention to the statement, crooks have to be monitored the protest group do just that.
Wrexham council and the police turn a blind eye to Eddie and his antics.
Why?
Now do you see the point!
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J D, if your name is really John Doherty then why don't you say so?
Ok, I will say so. No, it is not.
I don't give my name for the same reasons that you have not given yours. My name must be on the list though so I shall just wait my turn for a visit from the tall fat bloke who has made the threats on this blog.
If HAG wants to gain support some members have a funny way of going about it. This blog has made derogatory comments about WMBC, EA, DEFRA, the police, politicians on all sides and all levels,the Royal Family, the Freemasons (who donate more money to good causes than any other organisation but do it secretly) and now making allegations about drug dealing by a chip shop owner.
I hope the scouts don't upset you as there are not many organisations left to give you their support.
Yet with one of the worst known child molestors in the country living just down the road this still seems the most important way to protect your kids.
JD
I think we've had enough mindless abuse for now - this is a site set up by those campaigning to close Hafod Quarry landfill site. If people want to discuss chip shops or paedophiles, can they find another place to do it?
Sorry Hafod, you are right.
Did any body see the politics programme on at Sunday lunchtime. Maybe not as it was the midlands being covered.
They were showing how the dutch have achieved zero landfill waste strategy. They recycle and compost it is true but give insentives to industry to create a market for the materials saved. Our lot won't want to do that as it will take money away from them from both ends. Less landfill tax and more to spend out.
They boasting 75% reused and recycled but what of the 25% left?
The most ecologically friendly option ( agreed by the dutch green loby) was incineration. This gave enough energy from one plant to power 120,000 homes.
The programme also covered proposed recycling plants in the midlands and how people were protesting against them.
Holland is said to be ahead of the game with the handling of waste so how many will agree that zero waste is never going to happen and we need an alternative to landfill? The best one being energy from waste.
JD.
Well said Young Protester but you’ve missed another hugely important reason – we have sausage baps on a Saturday morning!
(Yes Doe, real ones, not that rubbish you got so excited about from the Little Chef last week! Bloody hell, you must be hungry this week though; the MWH equation (A statement of equality between two expressions for the uneducated!) is No wind = No breakfast! Up at five, loaded for six for a full day driving other peoples rubbish to an illegal landfill site. I know you’ll never admit it but I bet you’d wished you’d worked harder at school now don’t you or are we expected to believe that you dreamed your way through school, longing for the day when you would be a slave in the waste industry – well congratulations Doe – you’ve made it!
Youngster,
I think watchers answer has already covered this but to stand at the gate for a couple of hours in the morning does not have any impact on MWH and the officials you mention.
I concede that may draw a little attention from passing motorists but that is about it.
I can assure you that as a form of monitoring, which IS done by the professionals, gate protests have little or no affect.
JD.
監視 ,
I don't know what hours MWH drivers work. I don't work for them but you are going back to cheap insults again in desperation of a lack of valid arguement.
I don't intend to trade insults for 15 to 20 years so, as I am only giving you something to reply to, good bye.
JD.
So long as we have corrupt councillors and officers together with the government appointed quangos protests will continue.
It would be as well for those who are on the take of public money to realise that one day you will be exposed and be thrown out of office,
"Dirty Dozen" and associates you are being watched!
ccotinually.
2 L's
Perhaps he is the driver behind the curtain / false beard / hand!
Without a doubt it is J D behind the wheel!
What are you on about now. You are more interested in who I am than the protest.
I know you must be frustrated but frightening you are not. Get a life.
JD.
Oooooooooh - Dull's had a day off! (call me suspicious but the "hidden driver" was missing this morning!)
I may of worked this morning or I may not. There are more tips than Hafod.
As ever the question is unanswered. What are you on about? Hidden driver?
JD.
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On the subject of questions I too have one; in your post of 18th December you write … “When you notice Garry is missing one morning in the new year it will be because he has gone to his new villa in Spain”. Would it on reflection not have been more accurate to refer to Gary going to ’his’ villa at Easter, in the Spring etc. It is February!
You’re having a laugh Dull, Gary no more has a villa than I do; the ONLY villa is the MWH / WAG / WCBC / Environment Agency timeshare; its somewhere you nor Gary will ever go; its for the bigwigs, those who make real money from Hafod Landfill, not the fool who works all hours God sends or the idiot who drives the waste to the golden cow that is Hafod Landfill.
Oh, sorry Dull, I forgot, this is your life’s ambition, what you spent your school career dreaming of. Each to his own, I guess! Have a nice day off tomorrow, see you Monday but only for an hour; I have to leave at 8am to make some real money, I can’t hang about all day watching you scrapping about for your minimum wage plus a free Little Chef breakfast IF the wind comes.
Bloody hell, Dull I wish I was you … NOT!
Blah blah blah!
You still couldn't manage to answer the question. It must have been a bit too hard for you.
Just to let you know as my last comment. Over 5000, that is five thousand loads have now been tipped in Hafod Quarry Landfill.
Be sure to wave on Monday.
Love, hugs and kisses. Good bye.
JD.
EVERY time you lose the argument you go off in a sulk!
So can we assume you will be one of the first in on Monday? Perhaps thats unfair to ask, YOU don't know yet as the MASTERwon't tell his SLAVE until he reports for duty! C'mon Dull, have some self respect, find a proper job!
Over 5000, that is five thousand loads have now been tipped in Hafod Quarry Landfill.
In 40-tonne lorries, that's 200,000 tonnes in less than 6 months.
Given that Mersey Waste was *only* supposed to be tipping 300,000 tonnes a year, is that
(a) another Murky Waste lie
(b) is dumping as much as possible before it gets stopped by a legal challenge
(c) JD is lying
Theres no need to 'phone a friend' on this one ... it's A (Can't be C coz John Dull isn't told enough to lie; he's at the VERY bottom of the pile!)
Go on. One last post.
The answer to why there is debris is simple. Every measure is taken to try to prevent it but the half a dozen bits of foam each day are caught underneath vehicles out of sight. The road sweeper is there so they don't stay long. How often does the farmer on the other side of the A483 sweep his crap up.
Seren,
40 tonne loads? That would make the vehicle around 60 tonnes when loaded. The load of MWH vehicles would be 44 maximum gross less the tare. The other vehicles from every other company in the region that are not artics could be as little as 500kg. So MWH are not telling lies.
As for the slave comments, what is it that you go off to do? Wage slave or closet capitalist?
JD.
You still could not answer my question. What was the 'hidden driver' thing?
Ignore J D and the rest of the Establishment trash that enter stupid comments on ths site.
Concentrate on exposing the incompetence of Liverpool and Wrexham councils for not adopting a 100% local recycling policy until they both get the message.
At a recent meeting of Wrexham County Trades Union Council it was agreed to support a resolution on refuse disposal moved by the Union AMICUS.
It read :- There are 38 landfill sites in Wales, one at Hafod near Wrexham is importing 300,000 tonnes of refuse per annum from Merseyside and other authorities.
There is at present no consistent policy operated by local authorities for dealing with refuse, a common policy is required in order to comply with E U directives therby avoiding landfill and carbon emissions.
Wrexham County Trades Union Council calls on the Wales TUC to conduct an investigation into this issue and urge the National Assembly to introduce a waste strategy for Wales which recycles refuse at source in localised custom built plants that do not involve Incineration or Pyrolysis / Gasification but recycles refuse into a product that can be used in industry.
This has to be yet another thorn in the side of M W H and its associates and a welcome support for the members of the Hafod Environmental Group.
Thanks to the Informer for that information.
I've moved it up as a separate item and hopefully we can move on from the petty point-scoring of recent posts.
監視 said...
On the subject of questions I too have one; in your post of 18th December you write … “When you notice Garry is missing one morning in the new year it will be because he has gone to his new villa in Spain”. Would it on reflection not have been more accurate to refer to Gary going to ’his’ villa at Easter, in the Spring etc. It is February!
That is answered I believe. He is also looking to invest in more property in this area to add to the several he owns. If you top earners are interested in some of your millions you know where to find him.
The people who run this site are bigots. They delete posts that disagree with their point of view.
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