Hafod Quarry
Campaigning to stop five Liverpool councils (or anyone else, including Wrexham) dumping their waste in Hafod Quarry for the next generation. Landfilling at Hafod is not acceptable, the tip is right next to houses and MWH is relying on obsolete planning permission. Read on... N.B. THE MODERATORS OF THIS BLOG ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INSULTS TO POLITICIANS CONTAINED IN THE COMMENTS SECTION (unless they're authored by Hafod or Bren of course!)
140 Comments:
They will say it is work and he has to support his famiy.
Any old excuse, any old rubbish from the proletariat.
I was more worried about the hook lift behind him. No auto sheet? That can't be right.
I wonder what Health & Safety make of this?.
I know. Nobody uses a hook lift without an auto sheet these days.
Dull stop changing the subject you fool, do you think sending a man to clean an arterial (oh sorry thicko arterial means main) trunk road with a domestic dust pan right or wrong?
I don't think that he was 'sent' by MWH with a dust pan and brush.
I am only guessing but I think the sweeper company is contracted to keep the road clear so you would have to point the finger at them. On the other hand he may be self employed so surplies his own tools.
On the other hand, his position on the road, given there is no hard shoulder and facing traffic, the risk is at a minimum.
MWH pass the buck. AGAIN!!!
Who gives a monkey's arse?
Look at the last two posts. First you are moaning the road has a bit of muck on it by getting a quick snap before the sweeper has chance to clean it. Then straight after you are going on about the sweeper driver for being too thorough in his job.
Make your mind up.
For those with the memory of a goldfish, I am nothing to do with MWH.
More nonsense and wild conjecture,the only people who are present in the morning who receive payment are those in receipt of retirement pension.
You will be threatening to report them to the P C police next.
There are no drones or hangers on present, they are all in bed at that time of the morning recovering from excess alcohol or a drug overdose.
If you suffer with nose trouble why don't you check if there are any bandit lorry drivers working whilst in receipt of state benefit?
I THINK THE INFORMER NEEDS TO GET FACTS RIGHT BEFORE WRITING CRAP UNLESS THE WORKER OOP'S I'VE DONE IT AGAIN PROTESTER I MEAN.
AVENGER LIKE HILLMAN AVENGER SAD GIT.
PILLOCK, who do you think paid for the fuel for the police cars when they were there every day.
Did they ask the council tax payers for permisson to waste our money and also work overtime?
Are you going to tell us that M W H paid the bill?
Release the CAP lock Dull!
Dull how thick are you?
The site planning condition states the waste vehicles must be clean before they leave site, so there should be no requirement for the sweeper lorry or the birdman of Hafod fluttering around the roads like a pissed up ostrich.
And if Liverpool council concentrated their efforts on a decent recycling scheme instead of pontificating about the City of Culture there would no longer be a need to dump their rubbish on our doorstep!
It isn't just Liverpool tipping in Hafod but Wrexham are no better. I have just seen a WCBC tipper going to Pen Y Bont with a load of green waste which could have been composted. It came from the parks department and was not contaminated with anything.
And the driver is an a..ehole.
Wrong again Anonymous, the reason that particular green waste (from grass verges) is being deposited at Hafod is because it is contaminated with dog excrement.
The culprits are the dog owners who allow the fouling and the same sort of people who support and promote landfill, stupid and ignorant in common with some of the councillors and politicians that represent us all.
Very interesting but how do the dogs get up the trees. I never said Hafod either. Stop talking dog excrement.
If you didn't protest you wouldn't need any police so the only pillock is you.
Going back to the subject for a minute. Is what the sweeper driver is doing so different from two blokes in a transit parked half a mile away picking up litter with a grabbing stick and bin bag?
It's good enough for Highways.
It's very quiet around here. It must be the lfting of restrictions after the foot and mouth.
It was nice to see VOSA out patrolling yesterday. I didn't get pulled myself but it wouldn't worry me if I had been. I have not heard of any vehicles using Hafod being or doing anything illegal but I didn't expect to.
VOSA are very interested in Hafod, trust me!
They probably are with all the bogus reports you have made but there is not much point them wasting time and valuable resorces chasing companies with strict policies on vehicle and driver checks. These days you need to carry a small office with you and when the paper work is handed in it is checked, then checked again and then sent an indipendant firm to be checked again. As for the vehicles, I won't take an unsafe veicle out and don't know anybody who is daft enough to do so.
That is why it was good to see VOSA about so that cowboy outfits are kept off the road because all they do is undercut proper operators and drive the rates down.
All vehicles using Hafod are A1? You're having a laugh! Have you seen the blog posted on Friday 6th July entitled 'Spot the Difference'.
IF this particular vehicle (which incidentally even Rob Allan said was (and I quote) 'a bloody disgrace that should never have been put on the road in MWHs name!')was in such an excellent condition why was there need for such a makeover the very same morning it was reported to VOSA and the Police?
Strange coincidence don't you think!
But you know and we know you will go out in whatever (and whenever and to wherever) you are told - since when did YOU become a decision maker?
I don't know about any Norwich Union advert but I haven't seen him for 4 weeks!
But you know and we know you will go out in whatever (and whenever and to wherever) you are told - since when did YOU become a decision maker?
Oh no I won't. If it is too dirty it stops on the yard.
whatever!
Understand and understand clearly that you and the majority of employed people today will do exactly as you are requested to do regardless of the nature of the work involved.
The reason for this is simple,they are in so much debt that they are terrified in case they lose their job and their precious material goods.
So do not delude yourself any further the facts speak for themselves.
What facts? When I drive a vehicle it is roadworthy and in good nick. If I get prosecuted it affects my personal life as well so understand this, You are talking through your arse.
That photo of the sweeper had been altered anyway.
In what way?
The arrow on the back has been distorted in a photo suite. It stands out a mile as I think bob said at the time.
I am not talking through my posterior for it is a fact that you and the others employed, or working for M W H would be given your marching orders if you refused to work overtime.
The question is do you work it because you are afraid of saying no or is it because you can not manage on a flat five day week.
Don't say it is to earn some extra money because other people have said that you are all earning £300.00 plus in which case it is nothing more than greed, or is it after all fear of losing your domestic engineering job?
No, your arse is still talking.
I don't work for MWH.
I am not worried about losing my job enough to take out a defective vehicle or refuse to work overtime. Though I have not worked over 48 hours in any week since the introduction of the RTD.
£300.00 per week? Now you are having a laugh. Who would get out of bed for that? Please tell me you mean net not gross because you are still in the early nineties if not.
Confirmed, Agency parasite!
He does work overtime, greed not need.
Friday,August 17,2007 6:04:00 P M
It is immaterial whether it is
Pen y Bont or Hafod that you are referring to, the point is if people were more responsible then there would be no need to tip the green waste at a landfill site.
W C B C have been tipping at that site for some time, the difference is that they are at least making an effort to recycle and why abuse the driver?
Liverpool council are tipping outside their area that is what this campaign is about.
Just wake up!
Why abuse the driver? It is a fact that he is an arsehole.
Wrexham also tip out of their area.
eg. asbestos from the recycling parks goes to Skem as does all hazerdous waste.
You need to wake up. Wrexham, Denbeighshire, Flintshire, Powys, Shropshire, Cheshire etc are all using Hafod and Pen Y Bont. The Liverpool arguement is getting very tired now.
The proximaty of houseing is the same. Have a look at Arpley owned by WRG. They are building houses valued at £500,000 right next to the tip and they are selling.
To the person who is happy with £300 per week. You are totally nuts. Set yourself goles man. Try working a bit harder and get a job that will bring you of the poverty line.
TWO DAYS TO GO!
To the person who is happy with £300 per week. You are totally nuts. Set yourself goles man. Try working a bit harder and get a job that will bring you of the poverty line.
There you have it! In one succinct paragraph you have the reason why he's a waste monkey and we're not!
I think you mean 'set yourself GOALS man' and as for the last sentence, well one can only speculate!
Whilst we are in the mood for self improvement perhaps you can blag youself onto an EFL* course, yeah I know you're from Pen Y Cae but I'm sure you'll blag it!
*EFL - English as a Foreign Language
Learn Direct - here he comes!
TWO DAYS TO GO!
... very predictable!
There is the arguement for the protest put by hafodblogger.
Spelling.
It's argument!
There is a reason why you are a pro landfill / 45 hours a week waste monkey and I am not!
I am not pro landfill. I am all for alternatives but for many waste streams there is no viable option in the area.
I am as worried about the enviroment as anybody else. A group of us even flew from John lennon down to Heathrow at the weekend.
Yeah right!
ONE DAY TO GO!
Til Tim Henman retires?
Hardly relevant but hey, so are at least half the posts on here so who knows .........
Who is Tin Hemman?
Does he drive the sweeper?
Tuesday, August 27,9:01:00 P M
More spin from the councils propaganda machine.
If they got off their fat backsides and started making enquires they would find an outlet for the material that can be treated instead of it going to landfill.
Not much chance of that happening with bearded wonders like Edwards and Bailey of the Dirty Dozen in office.
It is here. The day has arrived.
My operating lisence is approved so you will soon see my name on the side as my vehicles enter Hafod.
Wage slave? Not me.
I hope your driving is better than your spelling or you will not even make it to the gate.
By the way its licence not lisence.
What will it say on your vehicle?.
DULL & SONS REMOVERS OF CRAP.
How will we know it is you Dull? Oh silly me, you will have your name on the front so you remember which shit cart is yours........... pathetic!
On the side, front and back of all three so you will know which is me. I will be the one sitting higher up than the other two drivers with my wallet in my back pocket.
Still no name Dull? Face it Dull you drive for Rob and always will!
Dull will you supply your drivers with flyswatters in their cabs?
Start counting Dull group,there are a lot more than two subscribers to this site on the protestesters side.
Allegedly four hafodbloggers as I remember. They could only think of one name though.
If you think you know this why don't you name names?
It will probably take you too long so is that why you make these wild allegations?
It was hafodblogger who said there was 4 hafodbloggers.
What wild allegations are you on about?
It's about time the imformer came back writing crap again.
You are the only one who writes excrement on this site anonymous.
If you were able to follow what was written you would understand that the person who is known as the Informer was referring to the number of protesters comments to this blog not Hafodbloggers.
So if you are so clever why don't you name them all from the photographs that have appeared.
Easy,
Elmo
Bert
Ernie
Big Bird
Cookie Monster
Grover
Oscar the Grouch
Zoe
Snuffleupagus
Count von Count
You have proved the point that we were correct in believing that the methane gas has damaged your brain
Hi pat roberts is this the first time on this blog site writing crap aswell.
No it is not the first or the last time,
I leave the rubbish comments to those who deposit it in our country
What a pity the city of culture is unable to deal with its refuse in a proper manner!
Now we know which channel the drivers watch when they knock off.
No but I am still young enough to remember my childhood.
I see that the lame brains are at it again stirring the pot.
They are too spineless to say boo to a goose so how can they criticize people who have the principle to make a stand over a disgraceful issue such as this.
The only laim brains are the ones that so called protest for two hours.
How do you think we achieved the standard of life we have today?
Was it achieved by people like you who accept all the grotty conditions offered to you throughout your life without question or complaint?
You must have been bottom of the class in History otherwise you would not state such rubbish.
By working for £300 per week that is how. I earned that yesterday.
Boys and girls come out to play.
laim?
Wonderful, £5.45 p.h.for all the hours you work and you call that progress.
I wonder if you belong to a union and they are aware of your situation?
I can’t wait for morning to see “Dull and Co Shit Collectors Ltd” pulling into Hafod in the new lorry, or has he woke up and realised he will work for Rob for the rest of his working life?
Sorry to burst your bubble but I am not working in this area just yet but should be by Christmas.
It is simon who needs to wake up if he thinks £5.45 per hour is what I earn. I wouldn't even consider taking on a driver who would work for that because he must be crap.
Hello Dim1!
It is a simple matter of dividing the hours worked into the £300.00 you refer to and it just happens to work out at
£5.45 p.h.
If you are only working a 35 hour week it works out at £8.572 p.h.
Elighten us please!
I didn,t refer to £300pw. It was one of you lot. I said who in their right mind gets out of bed for £3oopw and asked was it net or gross?
£300pw after deductions is a joke but £300pw before deductions is rediculous, isn't it?
didn,t Or didn't
£3oopw Or £300pw
The girls in the tax office are going to have a right laugh reading your books.
I can hear them shouting to each other "come and read this Mr Rediculous has sent his books in again"
Perhaps they will correct the spelling of your name to Mr Ridiculous!!
Keep driving for Rob Dull; you have not got the brain power to run a bath let alone a business!!
Maybe in view of the controversy of the domestic engineering payments the Inland Revenue should conduct an investigation.
After all Merseyside council tax payers would not be too happy to learn that their money was going into the black economy would they!
Since when has it been law that you need correct spelling and puntuation to run a company? I pay an accountant to deal with the tax office so all I have to do drive and rake it in.
I am not going to repeat it again but it just goes to show why the protest is going nowhere. You do not listen and edit/make up information to use as propaganda like banging on about Merseyside when a very large amount is coming from all over North Wales. Even from Johnstown and Ruabon.
Dull,it's punctuation not puntuation.
who cares?
That is the point, with your me, me, my attitude all you think about is yourself and your fat wallet.
In common with snatcher Thatcher you believe that there is no such thing as society and money is your God.
Here for a good time not a long time watcher. Don't start on Maggie. We never had it so good as when she was at the helm. She could show this shower a thing or two.
Never mind Maggie - it was Redwood who got us into this mess and now he's conducting a policy review for the Tory party in advance of the next election.
But hey who needs democracy anyway, you only have to make a promise or two, get elected and then you can do pretty much what you please or nothing at all if you prefer!
Nationally, we've got Martyn Jones in London and Kaz in Cardiff; and locally (well, three miles away) we've got a village Councillor in the Guildhall!
I'm gonna dig Lord Sutch up - he'd be better after eight years of death that this lot!
Wrong, wrong again Anonymous,Thatcher implemented the policy of the me,me,my society this was maintained and promoted by Major and enforced by Blair.
They are as bad as each other it is all about money whether it is M. W. H, L.C.C or W.C.B.C and their elected Stalinists who think only of themselves and treat the people with contempt.
If you can't beat them........
No, you do not join them and become a cabbage and parasite of society!
The only thing these people understand is exposure of their methods and this policy of exposure will continue until they start acting in a civilised manner.
They have betrayed the trust of the people they represent who placed them in a position of power, so they will reap as they have sown and continue to be exposed on this site for their dirty deeds.
I don't get the last few comments coz I'm simple but I thought the point of politicians was to represent the views of the people in their areas.
You would be hard pressed to find any sane person in Johnstown or Ruabon who thinks Hafod Landfill is a good idea - so what has Bithell, Sinclair or Dicky Bow done about it ... nothing!
Quite right, but the people have just given Karen the horse their support by voting for her.
So they deserve all they will get 'nothing'.
It is strange that Kaz thought the road covered with clay was acceptable.
Well it’s over three years until she needs the electorate to vote her and the rest of her family back onto the gravy train, so see you in 2011 Kaz and thanks for nothing!!
She'll not need you in 2011 - she'll be long on her pension with Dicky Bow!
And Nick Colbourne will be our new MP and David Bithell the Leader of Wrexham Council .... now thats scary!
Vote Lord Sutch!
Maybe Jezebel Griffiths will elevate herself to M.P with Panto councillor Colbourne as the A.M.
We will have to wait for the night of the long knives to find out.
It's all very exciting. Sounds like there is some distrust and mischief within the local Labour Party, some dishonorable things going on?
Perhaps our local Councillor will have joined up by the next election - perhaps he could get Labour to pay for his campaign then become a Tory half way through? Well, he's history!
Anonymous said...
Why was my comment about the people you blame for Hafod being voted back in by the majority of the community been deleted?
It just goes to show that this is all about soar grapes and the fact you don't have the support you claim.
Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:01:00 PM
Here we go again.
Go where?
What comment?
You've been inhaling again haven't you ... tut tut!
It's 12 months since the Dirty Dozen let us down; one was more dirty than the others though.
Who was especially dirty?
Take your choice, they both have beards and are members of the Long Knife Society.
Dull I must concede I am partial to a drop of Merlot or Shiraz, and I am not adverse to a drop of chardonnay on a hot summer’s day.
But I have not sampled a wine made out of “soar grapes”, perhaps if I had a glass I too would start imagining posts appearing then disappearing again!
Idiot!
Beards?
I'm more worried about the man with the moustache and no dignity!
The beast is lucky not to have lost his liberty not just his dignity!!
A truly dishonorable man!
Given up Dull?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
You don't need to sign your posts hafodblogger. We know your nick name is idiot. We also know you drink too much and can type 'names of posh wine' on google.
Like I said before, I save my posts ready for when you delete.
It has gone very political on here with the moniority being very disrespectful of elected representatives who were voted in by the majority after Hafod was opened. Why is that then?
Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:22:00 PM
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Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:33:00 PM
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Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:02:00 PM
No!
'...very disrespectful of elected representatives who were voted in by the majority after Hafod was opened
The only person who has been elected after Hafod opened is Kaz! I am very sorry if I have offended your wife Mr. Sinclair.
As for the other ramblings, well Dull it does you credit!
When they were voted in doesn't matter that that much but were they not given their jobs by the majority? Karen Sinclaire being voted back in can only mean that she was the best candidate in the view of the majority.
Which means that this protest is spured on by those were not good enough for the job. In other words, a bunch of sad losers.
Wrong again Anonymous, If you put Coco the Clown up as a L.P. candidate in Wrexham or Clwyd South the people would vote for him through loyalty to the former Labour Party.
What they fail to understand is that the party they trusted has been infiltrated by outside elemente and extreme right wing people as well as a crowd of local idiots who would join any party for the sake of a position of power.
These people have no principle or morality and are more interested in their bank balance and putting English before Welsh on station announcements and road signs than looking after the interests of the people who put them in their privileged positions.
The Hafod situation proves the point of their arrogant attitude.
The name is Sinclair not Sinclaire, Dull!
But the majority do not agree with you do they?
Do you mean Bolshie,the term used by the base in mind?
I see the corrupt bed fellows that are MWH and WCBC have had a falling out!
It is the Evening Kitty Litter Liner reporting so the truth is probably totally different but it goes to show how far out they were in the beginning with £10,000,000.
I see WRG are having problems with planning for the new recycling facillity now. There must be somebody else shouting 'not on my doorstep.'
That was inevitable, for if W.C.B.C are not falling out among themselves they are picking a fight with someone else.
It is their method of governing the area and we the people suffer through their gross incompetence.
Its obvious whats going on here - perhaps not to you Dull but then again your not the smelliest shit cart on the landfill are you!
It will cost the people of Wrexham millions in compensation, but on the bright side there will be a few free weeks in the villa now Isted and Kellett are out of favour.
Jez and Laurie can we still be friend’s boys please?
No it need not cost the people of Wrexham millions Anonymous.
This is the time for them to stand up and be counted and demand that our ineffectual M.P's and their two A.M. puppets act to stop this nonsense once and for all.
What are we paying our taxes for just for them to get their pictures in the papers and claim credit for other peoples effort?
There is your problem again. It is not down to WCBC to make the law but to follow it. MWH must believe that an action by WCBC will cause them to restrict operations so they will not be able to get the return they expected. If that action is found to be flawed WCBC will have to pay compensation. MWH said this was going to happen and everybody knew it was coming.
It is obvious hafodblogger thinks that this to strike back at EU decision made by the commitee for having a look at petitions to see if it is worth the commitee for petitions to have a look to see if the petition is worth having a look at before deciding if somebody in Brussels wants a week in North Wales for a holiday.
What utter rubbish from anonymous, M.W.H. knew of the situation when they purchased the site, all this is about is to dig a bigger hole to extend the site capacity for greater profit.
As for the previous comment about ineffectual M.P's and A.M's, that is to be expected of them as their only interest is maintaining their own position and making as much money as possible.
Only the people can stop this greedy lot of incomers.
Dull read your posts before you send them please, your thickness is getting boring.
Dull read your posts before you send them please, your thickness is getting boring.
You have always been boring. So what if my spelling is poor. I am earning more in a week than you do in 3 months and I have not been behind the wheel all week.
And you say I am thick.
Dull you do not earn more than me you stupid man.
You poor thing all you think about is bragging about how much money you earn, no real difference between you, M.W.H and our two useless M.P's.
For crying out loud - can nobody see what this £5million claim is all about.
Just a few weeks before the Planning Committee might kick the clay removal into the long grass MWH give them something to sharpen their minds - bloody hell, they're already after us for £5m, we'd better give them this or they'll sue us for more.
Isted's behind it and that clown Aled Roberts will soon pop out of the Stwit to tell us how costly this will be for Wrexham just like he did last time. It's September 4th all over again!
(For the record the biggest expense Wrexham cannot afford is Cllr Roberts himself - on his watch we've had failed bids for city status, a failed housing stock transfer, failed theatre bid and a £22million overspend on the super schools - one of which has just failed its inspection! Well done Aled, you've reopened the Stwit!) -
And what has Mr Roberts got in common with Mr Lucas?
They are both solicitors along with many, many politicians who are in charge of the economy of this country.
Is it any wonder we are in a mess!
How does it feel to have like minded people on your side Dull?
Idiot, you underestimate our councillors I am sure, they will not fall for the pantomime Isted and MWH are going to perform in front of them again.
This time they will do what is right for the people of Wrexham. You have cried wolf once to often Rob, everyone with a brain can see you have invented this claim, and the “other claim being considered” in an attempt to scare the planning committee into allowing the removal of 350,000m3 of clay.
Do you really thing they will be frightened by your compensation threat again?
Rob we may be off the mountain but we are not off the very top go on Al show the pot bellied fool whose is boss!!
hahaha!
You will be slagging off the chippy again soon. You should write a book between you and call it 'How to make friends and influence people.'
Do you really thing they will be frightened by your compensation threat again?
I don't think it is a threat as all reports say the claim has been made.
I've not seen this site before but have followed the story in the local papers. I've seen a few stories that the site has been broken into on repeated occasions by some of you 'peaceful protesters'. Maybe if the company who run the place didn't have to keep on replacing fence panels or repairing damage caused by your side they'd have more cash free to spend on stuff to address the issues at the site.
You don't help yourselves by being such a pain in the arse to both the company and the local authorities. It obviously isn't getting you anywhere so maybe you should find a different approach?
I've also been watching 'Dumped' on Channel 4 - I think we should all count our lucky stars that our site here in Johnstown is run better than the one on that programme! Then again maybe if you guys actually had some real problems to moan about the authorities might have a reason to take action, rather than just ignoring you every time you cry wolf.
Dull your spelling has improved,or did your wife write the last comment.
That wasn't me but who ever it is has the right idea.
If you Mr Newsreader know who has been breaking into the site then it is your duty to inform the police, but if you do not know who it is then please don't make wild accusations.
The description is pain in the posterior,
where were you educated?
page 50 Oxford English Dictionary
ARSEHOLE
Same to you mate!
Dull has your P.C had a brainstorm during the last comment?,or have you spilt your pop over it.
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